User:TheAngliscCween
DUCK THEE MUTHERDUCKER
Why is Anglish Moot bad?[edit]
A number of reasons:
- Anglish Moot is an outdated, rarely edited Wiki, with little activity and improvements going on; the Anglish community thrives on Reddit and Discord instead.
- The administration of Anglish Moot is completely detached from the Anglish community - inactive on the Reddit, on the Discord, and hard to contact.
- Anglish Moot contains a lot of badly made words, unnecessarily calqueing German usage of prefixes (instead of native, English way of doing things), often confusing, often cartoonishly sounding, and sometimes ignoring real English words (be it dead or alive).
- The words on the Anglish Moot that are good (well made, or well revived) we've already added to our wordbook years ago, and I refer to point 1. again
What are the grounds for Anglish?[edit]
Everyone has a different one, but among these one can find:
- Ultimately making many of the connections between words more regular, sensible, and understandable. Right now there exist many seemingly nonsensical word pairs such as "king" and "royal", where the latter replaced the original English word "kingly"; or "cat" and "feline", where a language like German says "Katze" and "katzenartig", or Latin that says "félés" and "félínus".
- A lot of the "Anglish" words are in fact dialectal or archaic words that used to be common, but were replaced by a more "learned" French word, which to an extent gives a slightly more familiar, folky feeling. Though on the other hand, some Anglish alternatives survived better in the higher register than in common language, which can bring a poetic vibe here and there.
- Overall, it's a fun thought experiment, maybe even a game, that requires some linguistic knowledge.
- Many european languages did just that, such as German, Dutch, Czech, or Lithuanian. Why English would be worse?
My Spellings[edit]
I like ad hoc creating various spellings, but I'm not good at keeping track of them. Here I'll write about the ones I note the most.
Onoma's Revised Modern English Spelling[edit]
This spelling has three goals:
- It's "Anglish-friendly", meaning that it takes another spin on a likely evolution of the English spelling without post-1066 Latin/French influence, using mainly conventions that were in use in English and widening them.
- It's truer to the wordlore, harkening back to early Middle English and also truer to its evolution (such as no magic E on the Middle English long high vowels, as the high vowels seemingly weren't affected by the open-syllable lenghtening)
- It gets rid of most irregularities that aren't caused by interdialectal borrowings of pronounciations (an example of such borrowing is the word "one", which should rhyme with "bone") or by historical sound mergers (such as vain-vein merger)
CONSONANTS | ||||
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GRAPHEME | PRONUNCIATION | EXAMPLES | EXPLANATION | |
MID. ENGLISH | NEW ENGLISH | |||
⟨c⟩ | /t͡ʃ/ | /t͡ʃ/ | choose→coose, much→muc | Widened from being brooked before ⟨e⟩ and ⟨i⟩. ⟨k⟩ was once used before these for /k/ to disambiguate. |
⟨ch⟩ | /x/ | silent | might→micht, weight→weicht, enough→enouch | Akin to ⟨th⟩, which was sometimes used in Old English; both were only used for Greek words in Latin, for /x/ and /θ/ respectively. Natively /x/ only existed word-finally or before another consonant, so it's mainly kept for vowel spellings. |
⟨ck⟩ | /k/ | /k/ | duck, pick | Only morpheme-final, like in Modern English. |
⟨d⟩ | /d/ | /d/ | mud | |
⟨f⟩ | /f/ /v/[1][5] | /f/ /v/[1][5] | have→haffe, halve→halfe | Usage of ⟨v⟩ is due to French influence |
⟨g⟩ | /g/ | /g/ | guide→gyd, get→get | |
⟨h⟩ | /h/ | /h/ | whore→hoor, whole→hoal, yeah→yea | |
⟨hw⟩ | /ʍ/ | /w/[2] | white→hwyt, what→hwat | |
⟨k⟩ | /k/ | /k/ | cool→kool, cat→kat | |
⟨l⟩ | /l/ | /l/ | load, lord | |
⟨m⟩ | /m/ | /m/ | mummy | |
⟨n⟩ | /n/ | /n/ | funny | |
⟨ng⟩ | /ŋg/ | /ŋ/ | finger, string | Might be /ŋg/ by the same rules as in Modern English |
⟨p⟩ | /p/ | /p/ | pull | |
⟨r⟩ | /r/ | /r/ | arm, ring | Exact realization of /r/ (or lack thereof) depends on the accent |
⟨s⟩ | /s/ /z/[1][4] | /s/ /z/[1][4] | fleece→flees, freeze→freese, mouse→mws, arse→ars | ⟨z⟩ isn't used, as it comes from post-1066 influence |
⟨sc⟩ | /ʃ/ | /ʃ/ | shine→scyne, shot→scot, sheathe→sceaþe | ⟨sh⟩ most likely comes from widening of ⟨ch⟩, so it needed a swap back. |
⟨sk⟩ | /ʃ/ | /ʃ/ | Scotland→Skotland, sky | |
⟨ss⟩ | /s/ | /s/ | messy | |
⟨t⟩ | /t/ | /t/ | latter, flat | |
⟨þ⟩ | /θ/ /ð/[1] | /θ/ /ð/[1] | rather→raþþer, think→þink | Brought back for better handling of long/short vowels. |
⟨w⟩ | /w/ | /w/[3] | queen→kween, wide→wyd, write→wryte | |
⟨y⟩ | /j/ | /j/[3] | behaviour→behafeyor, yes, yard |
[1] - between vowel letters [2] - with wine-whine merger [3] - word-initially or between a consonant and a vowel [4] - finally in grammatical endings [5] - between r/l and a vowel letter
All single consonant letters can be doubled to indicate that the vowel before them is short (when another syllable follows) and it doesn't change the pronounciation of the consonant (with exception of the doubled ⟨s⟩). ⟨ck⟩ is treated as the doubled ⟨k⟩.